Hi all,
being part of Commons Conservancy brought up yet another subject,
which is whether we should add a header with license information in
every file in the projects under idpy. This is not something done in
an abstract way, there is a specific format modelling this information
(see https://spdx.org/ and https://reuse.software/ - more specifically
https://reuse.software/practices/2.0/). Still, I find it problematic.
We want to open up the question to the wider community and consider
their thoughts on this. The forwarded message below is discussing this
subject. You can see the question we posed, the answer we got and my
comments. Feel free to tell us what you think on this.
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 at 09:56
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: May 8, 2019, 8:15 AM -0700
>
> > Why does CC think having a single license file per project is
> > insufficient? Our thought is that if we can avoid adding a header to
> > every single file, that would be nice, esp. given we already have this
> > info in the license file and we have the Note Well.
>
>
> this is not just our opinion, but something that is an industry and
> community standard for legal compliance these days. When companies like
> Siemens, Samsung or Honeywell use some code in one of the hundreds or
> thousands of devices and systems in their product line, they need to be
> able to provide the correct license and a download of the exact version.
> This means machine readability too.
>
I've actually observed the opposite of that. Communities abandon the
"license in every file" model, and just use a single LICENSE file in
the root of the project. The LICENSE file contains license
information, that is, it is not a single license but it has exception
sections and so on.
> To quote from https://reuse.software/practices/2.0/ :
>
> Scroll to the section "2. Include a copyright notice and license in each
> file"...
>
> "Source code files are often reused across multiple projects, taken from
> their origin and repurposed, or otherwise end up in repositories where
> they are separate from its origin. You should therefore ensure that all
> files in your project have a comment header that convey that file’s
> copyright and license information: Who are the copyright holders and
> under which license(s) do they release the file?
>
Continuing from above, the standardization of package-management
formats and tools has helped exactly with that: to avoid distribution
of single files, and instead provide packages and modules. It is bad
practice and considered a hack to copy files. Nobody liked that model
and everyone is moving away; it is unstructured, it becomes
unmanageable and it will cause problems.
> It is highly recommended that you keep the format of these headers
> consistent across your files. It is important, however, that you do not
> remove any information from headers in files of which you are not the
> sole author.
>
> You must convey the license information of your source code file in a
> standardised way, so that computers can interpret it. You can do this
> with an SPDX-License-Identifier tag followed by an SPDX expression
> defined by the SPDX specifications."
>
> (the text goes on for a while after this, to clarify the point but this
> is the basic gist of it)
>
> There is a nice Python tool to check:
>
> https://github.com/fsfe/reuse-tool
>
> I hope this makes sense
>
Well, it does not make complete sense. We're talking about licensing a
project. A project is not just code; there are data files (html, xml,
yaml, json files), binary files (archives/zip, images, audio, video,
etc), text files (configs, ini-files, etc) all "not-code". How do you
mark those files? Does the LICENSE file need a license-header? The
json format does not define comments, how do you add a header there?
If a binary file does not get a license header, why should a file with
code get one?
I would expect there to be a way to have the needed information
unified. If the files themselves cannot provide this information it
has to be external; thus the LICENSE file. If someone is worried about
somebody else re-using single files that do not have license
information (a python file, a png image, etc) there is really nothing
you can do (the DRM industry has been trying to solve for a long time;
and still your best bet is "social DRM").
Since, we're developing on open source with a permissive license, even
if someone does that, should we be happy that someone is actually
using what we built or sad that the files they copied did not have a
license header? And if they include the license information of that
copied file in their project's LICENSE file, is this solved?
Having pointed these contradictions, I am thinking that the "license
in every file" model seems to be a step backwards. It is introducing
overhead and does not really solve the problem, while at the same time
it enables a culture of bad practice (copying files around).
Cheers,
--
Ivan c00kiemon5ter Kanakarakis >:3
Hello everyone,
we discussed on the biweekly whether there is a way to have pull
requests marked as not-ready to merge. Gitlab supports this: if you
prefix the merge request with "WIP:" (work in progress) it will
disable the merge button. Github has a similar feature called draft
pull requests. You can read more about it here:
https://help.github.com/en/articles/about-pull-requests#draft-pull-requests
I suggest we make use of this wherever needed ;)
Cheers,
--
Ivan c00kiemon5ter Kanakarakis >:3
Hola a todos!
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Thanks! Heather
Hi Leif,
I added 2 pipes to buildin.py:
- publish_html creates static HTML views of IDPs and SPs, using XSLT based on Peter Schober’s alternative to MET;
- publish_split: similar to store, but added validUntil and creates signed XML-file per EntityDescriptor. This can be consumed dynamically by ADFS in an IDP role.
I put it directly into buildin.py because it shares some code with the sign pipe. Is this viable from your PoV - if yes, I would make an PR.
Cheers, Rainer
Hola a todos!
Several people have let me know that they are not available during our usual call window on 14 May 2019. I’ve put together a doodle poll to try and find an alternate time; we’ll try and get back to our usual call cycle on 28 May 2019 (pending participants’ availability).
https://doodle.com/poll/rdfawvpi78ce8p9h
If you would fill that out ASAP, I would appreciate it! Some options are for this Friday, so the sooner we have a list of viable choices, the better.
Thanks! Heather
Hi,
I just pushed pysaml2 PR #613 to enable more flexible entity catetory
support:
https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/613
Before this PR entity category modules to be used to help configure
attribute release for an IdP could only be imported from
the name space saml2.entity_category. This is cumbersome and made
overlaying new entity category modules or custom versions of existing
entity category modules difficult.
With this PR entity category modules are first searched for on the
general module import path. If they are not found there then the current
default of importing from saml2.entity_category.<module> is used.
Thanks,
Scott K
In my effort to clean up pyff (cf recent posts) I have created an
HTML5/JS frontend app that closely mirrors the "admin" application
that pyffd currently comes with: https://github.com/SUNET/mdq-browser
This is another step in the (previously announced) plan to make
core pyFF less of a monolith.
Also the api-refactory has seen a lot of work recently, notably
adding several APIs to help instrument pyFF and a rewrite of the
fetch module to use apscheduler which looks like a great tool for
managing asynchronous operations.
Cheers Leif
Hola a todos!
After much discussion, debate, and research, the Identity Python board (https://idpy.org/organization/) has agreed upon a Note Well [1] to govern contributions to all Identity Python Projects. This Note Well is linked off the Contribute page on our website. See https://idpy.org/contribute/.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
-Heather
[1] Full text:
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