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Notes: idpy dev call, 17 March 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

(Call should be back to the regular time by March 31st) Attendees Ivan, Heather, Scott K, John P, Hannah Sebuliba 0 - Agenda bash 1 - GitHub review a. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA Ivan has made some commits on Satosa. Some of them are breaking changes (removing deprecated option). The next release will be a breaking release. Have also added some things around logging. See example files, the proxy.conf has new options around logging ( https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/blob/master/example/proxy_conf.yam…) Recommendation, though, is to leave as is and set the log level, and define at the service level where the log should be. Also can now query Satosa during run time to find out what version is running. In the core Satosa, there were references to the consent and account linking services that have been removed. There should not be any dependency on microservices in the core. Next up: looking at how state is being handled, and introducing high-level functions to better manage state. Also looking at some of the other PRs: • https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/316 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/314 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/279 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/280 Also looking at the issue Scott K has filed (checking the scope on attributes, and filtering out attributes based on that scope). ( https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/issues/297) b. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 Not many changes. Made some changes to the version module. Next up: review issues that have come up, including nameID format/policy and how those should be different configuration options. Also, of higher priority, configuration around which algorithms we use and how we advertise them. There are also issues around certificates, signing and encryption/decryption. Later will look into the problem with the redirect binding and the signed response which caused a failure. Also, trust and certificates (https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/issues/594) See: • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/662 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/660 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/645 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/628 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/625 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/issues/669 • https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/issues/659 d. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF Heather has asked Leif to send an update. d. OIDC - https://github.com/IdentityPython (JWTConnect-Python-OidcRP, JWTConnect-Python-CryptoJWT, etc) Roland is actively working on items in the repository now. 3 - AOB Creating new microservices - new documentation available: https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/wiki/Anatomy-of-a-response-micro-s… Ivan is thinking making this part of Satosa so microservices won’t need their own helper. You can use this directly with your own services, or you can import it from Satosa. There is also a new test case available to test the new logging helper. Will move this into core soon so it will be easier for existing microservices to take advantage of it. Thanks! Heather

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Reminder: idpy dev call, 17 March 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

BlueJeans: https://bluejeans.com/567481057 Agenda: 0 - Agenda bash 1 - GitHub review a. OIDC - https://github.com/IdentityPython (JWTConnect-Python-OidcRP, JWTConnect-Python-CryptoJWT, etc) b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA c. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 d. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF 3 - AOB Thanks! Heather

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T&I Hackathon - canceled

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Hola a todos! With the cancellation of the eduGAIN Town Hall, it seems best to go ahead and also cancel the T&I Hackathon on 23 March 2020. We will be trying for another one in the future, though the date and location are (obviously) TBD. You are always welcome to code and submit PRs in the comfort of your own home, and the projects you’re interested in would most certainly appreciate it. Thanks! Heather

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Notes: idpy dev call, 3 March 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Attendees: John P., Giuseppe, Hannah, Roland, Scott, Ivan, Alex, Johan, Christos, Heather Notes: 0 - Agenda bash 1 - Discussion a. <NameIDPolicy> and <NameID> Format attribute See discussions on slack. There is a policy setting; you may want to request a specific NameID format from an IdP, and if you don’t define the config option, what happens? We can request a NameID format in an authN request, and we can advertise in metadata what NameID we support. One thought (Ivan) is that it would be better not to advertise a NameID format, and only when you want a specific format to request it. Alternatively (Christos), do not request anything during the AuthN request, and to list in metadata in preference order the NameID format you will support. [Discussion] Should we leave this config option out, thus not setting the NameID policy at all? We should be able to set the NameID policy; there are use cases where we have to force this. Separating the two config options is a good thing to do. We need to set a NameID policy without a NameID. The string “none” is a hack. We can set some defaults, and if we need more complexity, it should probably be in a microservice. Christos points out that a microservice can’t do this because it’s at the wrong place in the workflow. The microservice architecture would need to be refactored. Satosa defines an internal representation fo the data, and the microservices act on that. When something is defined we need to make sure it can be defined into something for the outgoing protocol; for NameID, at the point the microservices are requested, they don’t have access to the backend or its metadata. We would need to make a change that would allow some or all microservices to run at a different point. If anyone has specific requirements here, please let Ivan know. b. Custom syntax in YAML - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/316 A new tag that would allow us to specify an environment variable. Use case: a deployment via docker swarm or kubernetes, and it is convenient to inject secrets via environment variables into the containers. Was handled via entry point scripts. The YAML config files are in an open Git repository. This gets cumbersome. Scott implemented a first draft, and Ivan improved it. Could we use py files instead of YAML files? This would work for pySAML2, but not for Satosa. Ivan will think about this a bit more, and then either merge the code or figure out another way to do this. Action item: Scott will improve the documentation (more examples would help) Action item: Ivan to consider this further; code is fine if we go with the current syntax. c. Shibboleth encryption algorithms Use case: the Shib project has announced that as of v4 of the IdP, default will be GCM encryption. This can be changed either globally or per RP. There are many Satosa SPs that will need to be able to consume that default. This is handled correctly for Satosa, but pySAML2 has two backends for encryption, and one uses xmlsec1, and the other on a python security library. With the xmlsec1, we generate the commands and run them from the xmlsec1 binary. Whether we can read/decrypt the GCM based payloads depends on what xmlsec1 supports. If your openSSL supports the GCM encryption, then xmlsec1 will support it as well, and everything should work correctly. We do need to add the different algorithms to pySAML2. Action item: Scott to open an issue against pySAML2 to help track this 2 - GitHub review a. OIDC - https://github.com/IdentityPython (JWTConnect-Python-OidcRP, JWTConnect-Python-CryptoJWT, etc) Will discuss at a future meeting (hopefully at the hackathon). Roland will release new versions tomorrow. b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA i. New release (v6.1.0) - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/releases/tag/v6.1.0 Contains a new middleware dependency that takes care of the SameSite cookie issue. It sets the SameSite attribute to none. Note only Python 3.8 and newer are the only ones that know about the SameSite attribute. There is also a new dependency that takes that cookie, duplicates it, and removes the SameSite attribute; that means it sends two cookies, one with it set, one without. Clients that do not know what the SameSite attribute are about will drop it, and ones that do will have it. Satosa only cares about the cookie it sets itself. Deployer will need to define the configuration that takes the cookie name and the holdback name. See example: https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/blob/master/example/proxy_conf.yam… SameSite attribute is set here: https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/blob/master/src/satosa/state.py#L50 Monkey patch: https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/blob/master/src/satosa/cookies.py#… Release also includes a fix for sessionID. This comes out of some of the updates to logging. The sessionID is now part of the state, not part of where the logs happen. Now set pySAML2 to v5 or newer, in response to a security vulnerability that was patched in v5 c. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 d. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF 3 - AOB Thanks! Heather

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Reminder: idpy dev call, 3 March 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

BlueJeans: https://bluejeans.com/567481057 Agenda: 0 - Agenda bash 1 - Discussion a. <NameIDPolicy> and <NameID> Format attribute b. Custom syntax in YAML c. Shibboleth encryption algorithms 2 - GitHub review a. OIDC - https://github.com/IdentityPython (JWTConnect-Python-OidcRP, JWTConnect-Python-CryptoJWT, etc) b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA i. New release (v6.1.0) c. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 d. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF 3 - AOB Thanks! Heather

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idpy dev call CANCELED for 18 February 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Hi all, With so many people at the TIIME Workshop, we’re going to go ahead and cancel the call. A few topics have come up on the Slack channel that are likely of more general interest; Ivan will be posting to the list with more information on those. Talk to you all on our next call, currently scheduled for 3 March 2020! Thanks! Heather

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Notes: idpy dev call, 4 February 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Attendees: Heather, Johan, Ivan, John P, Scott, Hannah, Giuseppe, Roland 0. Agenda bash Idpy.org <http://idpy.org/> domain issue - Leif is working on it Board continues as is, with Roland, Mike, Chris, and Ivan agreeing to serve for a new two-year term. Reminder: Hackathon/Workshop on March 23; please register! Ivan will be sending out information with more guidance on what work will be targeted that day. https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235 <https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235> The idpy BoF was rejected from TNC20. Space too limited. 1. GitHub review a. OIDC - https://github.com/IdentityPython <https://github.com/IdentityPython> (JWTConnect-Python-OidcRP, JWTConnect-Python-CryptoJWT, etc) Libraries are moved to the IdentityPython repository. Coding activity is in progress. There are some issues with Satosa in relation to the OIDC endpoint; GRNET is putting effort into fixing this. Roland is working on a few things in the libraries: pushed authentication, identity assurance (see https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/ <https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/> and https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/issues/1153/request-syntax-complexity <https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/issues/1153/request-syntax-complexity>), mutual TLS b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA> Not a lot of progress since the last call. Have been discussing some of the common components between this and a new eduTEAMS project. There is a dependency between the proxy and services that live outside the proxy. Part of the discussion is how to define a common pattern/API on the info sent out to the services. May be encoding this information using SCIM (http://www.simplecloud.info/ <http://www.simplecloud.info/>). This would allow other services to get info from the proxy as well, since SCIM is a standardized model. Ivan will have more information on the wiki soon (and will send to the list) c. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2> Signing encryption/decryption, and the names of identifier attributes: Ivan created a PR about this ( https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/662 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/662>). Would like for people to test that and see if it works for them. It is not following the specs closely, but it shouldn’t cause problems. Ivan will hold off merging it until there has been more testing. Will be merging: https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/660 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/660> https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/645 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/645> https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/628 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/628> https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/625 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/625> And then will have a new release. SameSite cookie handling - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/625 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/pull/625> See also discussion on Slack (https://identity-python.slack.com/archives/C4RR58T6C <https://identity-python.slack.com/archives/C4RR58T6C>) This will be part of the code; no other changes will be needed by deployers. Target release before end of February d. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF> No update 2. AOB Next call scheduled for 18 February 2020

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Reminder: idpy dev call, 4 February 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

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Fwd: T&I Hackathon - 23 March 2020, Stockholm

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

In case you’re not on the REFEDS mailing list... > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Heather Flanagan <hlf at sphericalcowconsulting.com> > Subject: T&I Hackathon - 23 March 2020, Stockholm > Date: January 29, 2020 at 12:48:01 PM GMT > To: refeds at lists.refeds.org > > Hola a todos! > > Are you attending the eduGAIN Town Hall on 24-25 March 2020? Are you interested in kicking off your week with some code development? Perhaps you have some questions on configuration, or ideas to improve documentation. You should join us, then, at the upcoming Trust & Identity Hackathon! > > Date: 23 March 2020 > Location: SUNET offices at Tulegatan (11 floor 3) in Stockholm > > Registration link: https://doodle.com/poll/p9apiwmnyzqq899w <https://doodle.com/poll/p9apiwmnyzqq899w> > > Wiki page: https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235 <https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235> > > Please register so we know how much coffee, tea, and sandwiches we need to acquire, and note in the registration notes what coding project you are interested in. We’ll organize tables as indicated in the registrations. > > Thanks, and I hope to see you in Stockholm! > > Heather

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Reminder: idpy dev call, 21 January 2020

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Meeting URL https://bluejeans.com/567481057 <https://bluejeans.com/252755948> Meeting ID 567 481 057 Agenda: 0. Agenda bash 1. Administrivia a. Idpy Board nominations 2. GitHub review a. OIDC - https://github.com/IdentityPython/oidcendpoint b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA> c. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2> d. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF> 3. AOB

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