September 2019 - Idpy-discuss

Agenda: idpy Developers call, 16 May 2019

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Date: Tuesday, 16 May 2018 Time: 06:00 PT | 09:00 ET | 15:00 GMT https://bluejeans.com/163562895 Agenda: 0. Agenda bash 1. Governance update a. Commons Conservancy b. Note Well and licensing by repository vs license in each file 2. Code releases - speed vs stability? a. Resources (do we have enough if we use them well? If not, what are we asking the idpy Board for?) 3. GitHub review a. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA c. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF d. ... 4. AOB Thanks! Heather

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Project licensing within IdentityPython

by ivan.kanak＠gmail.com

Hi all, being part of Commons Conservancy brought up yet another subject, which is whether we should add a header with license information in every file in the projects under idpy. This is not something done in an abstract way, there is a specific format modelling this information (see https://spdx.org/ and https://reuse.software/ - more specifically https://reuse.software/practices/2.0/) Still, I find it problematic. We want to open up the question to the wider community and consider their thoughts on this. The forwarded message below is discussing this subject. You can see the question we posed, the answer we got and my comments. Feel free to tell us what you think on this. ---------- Forwarded message --------- Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 at 09:56 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: May 8, 2019, 8:15 AM -0700 > > > Why does CC think having a single license file per project is > > insufficient? Our thought is that if we can avoid adding a header to > > every single file, that would be nice, esp. given we already have this > > info in the license file and we have the Note Well. > > > this is not just our opinion, but something that is an industry and > community standard for legal compliance these days. When companies like > Siemens, Samsung or Honeywell use some code in one of the hundreds or > thousands of devices and systems in their product line, they need to be > able to provide the correct license and a download of the exact version. > This means machine readability too. > I've actually observed the opposite of that. Communities abandon the "license in every file" model, and just use a single LICENSE file in the root of the project. The LICENSE file contains license information, that is, it is not a single license but it has exception sections and so on. > To quote from https://reuse.software/practices/2.0/ : > > Scroll to the section "2. Include a copyright notice and license in each > file"... > > "Source code files are often reused across multiple projects, taken from > their origin and repurposed, or otherwise end up in repositories where > they are separate from its origin. You should therefore ensure that all > files in your project have a comment header that convey that file’s > copyright and license information: Who are the copyright holders and > under which license(s) do they release the file? > Continuing from above, the standardization of package-management formats and tools has helped exactly with that: to avoid distribution of single files, and instead provide packages and modules. It is bad practice and considered a hack to copy files. Nobody liked that model and everyone is moving away; it is unstructured, it becomes unmanageable and it will cause problems. > It is highly recommended that you keep the format of these headers > consistent across your files. It is important, however, that you do not > remove any information from headers in files of which you are not the > sole author. > > You must convey the license information of your source code file in a > standardised way, so that computers can interpret it. You can do this > with an SPDX-License-Identifier tag followed by an SPDX expression > defined by the SPDX specifications." > > (the text goes on for a while after this, to clarify the point but this > is the basic gist of it) > > There is a nice Python tool to check: > > https://github.com/fsfe/reuse-tool > > I hope this makes sense > Well, it does not make complete sense. We're talking about licensing a project. A project is not just code; there are data files (html, xml, yaml, json files), binary files (archives/zip, images, audio, video, etc), text files (configs, ini-files, etc) all "not-code". How do you mark those files? Does the LICENSE file need a license-header? The json format does not define comments, how do you add a header there? If a binary file does not get a license header, why should a file with code get one? I would expect there to be a way to have the needed information unified. If the files themselves cannot provide this information it has to be external; thus the LICENSE file. If someone is worried about somebody else re-using single files that do not have license information (a python file, a png image, etc) there is really nothing you can do (the DRM industry has been trying to solve for a long time; and still your best bet is "social DRM"). Since, we're developing on open source with a permissive license, even if someone does that, should we be happy that someone is actually using what we built or sad that the files they copied did not have a license header? And if they include the license information of that copied file in their project's LICENSE file, is this solved? Having pointed these contradictions, I am thinking that the "license in every file" model seems to be a step backwards. It is introducing overhead and does not really solve the problem, while at the same time it enables a culture of bad practice (copying files around). Cheers, -- Ivan c00kiemon5ter Kanakarakis >:3

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pyFF: Pipes for additional output formats

by rainer＠hoerbe.at

Hi Leif, I added 2 pipes to buildin.py: - publish_html creates static HTML views of IDPs and SPs, using XSLT based on Peter Schober’s alternative to MET; - publish_split: similar to store, but added validUntil and creates signed XML-file per EntityDescriptor. This can be consumed dynamically by ADFS in an IDP role. I put it directly into buildin.py because it shares some code with the sign pipe. Is this viable from your PoV - if yes, I would make an PR. Cheers, Rainer

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Agenda: idpy developers call, 1 October 2019

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2018 Time: 06:00 PT | 09:00 ET | 15:00 GMT https://bluejeans.com/489221749 Agenda: 0. Agenda bash 1. Hackathon report from NTW2019 a. Hackathon planning - 10-11 December @ Internet2 TechEx (will require TechEx registration) 2. GitHub review a. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA c. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF d. … 3. AOB Thanks! Heather

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thiss-js Docker discovery service not clickable

by skoranda＠gmail.com

Hi, I have a pyFF deployment answering MDQ/API queries at https://mdq-dev.ligo.org/ I am using the master of today's thiss-js repository at commit 2bca90db03a3110feeaf2773e3a91598bcee1b4e. I did npm intall make docker and it generated the image thiss-js:1.0.1 I then did docker run \ -d \ --name ds \ -e BASE_URL=http://localhost:8080 \ -e COMPONENT_URL=http://localhost:8080/cta \ -e PERSISTENCE_URL=http://localhost:8080/ps \ -e MDQ_URL=https://mdq-dev.ligo.org/entities/ \ -e SEARCH_URL=https://mdq-dev.ligo.org/api/search \ -e LOGLEVEL=debug \ -p 8080:80 \ thiss-js:1.0.1 To simulate an IdP discovery flow I then browsed to http://localhost:8080/ds/index.html?entityID=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ligo.org%2F… The discovery page renders and I expect it would and I can type in the text box. I see the API queries going out to the pyFF MDQ service and the IdP I want to use is found and displayed as a choice. When I click on the IdP choice, however, nothing happens. The generated HTML that I am clicking on is <a class="institution identityprovider bts-dynamic-item" tabindex="0" data-href=""> <li><i class="arrow" data-fa-i2svg=""><svg class="svg-inline--fa fa-angle-right fa-w-8" aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" data-prefix="fa" data-icon="angle-right" role="img" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="0 0 256 512" data-fa-i2svg=""><path fill="currentColor" d="M224.3 273l-136 136c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.6-22.6c-9.4-9.4-9.4-24.6 0-33.9l96.4-96.4-96.4-96.4c-9.4-9.4-9.4-24.6 0-33.9L54.3 103c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0l136 136c9.5 9.4 9.5 24.6.1 34z"></path></svg></i> <div class="d-block institution-text"> <div class="text-truncate label primary">University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee</div> <div class="text-truncate label-url secondary">uwm.edu</div> </div> </li> </a> Is there some configuration I missed for running the Docker image? I have tried both Firefox 69.0.1 and Google Chrome 77.0.3865.90 on Debian 10. Scott K P.S. Note that I reported yesterday an issue with pyFF MDQ not responding correctly when the query is the sha1 hash of an entityID. Does not being able to resolve the metadata for the SP prevent discovery from working?

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thiss.io select as alias support

by martin＠surfnet.nl

Hi, I've been experimenting with thiss.io combined with pyff as mdq and tried to use the pyff "select as" construct to narrow down the list of available IdP's in the DS. It doesn't work? Pyff correctly reports a request on the ds, for alias test, but thiss.io returns a 404? pyffd[1318]: 2019-09-24 15:48:21,415 DEBUG [pyff.api:31][MainThread] handling entry=request, alias=test, path=ds I suspect this is caused by the (example) nginx conf, as the /test alias can not be served by thiss.io it is directly forwarded to pyff, bypassing the DS? server { include "mime.types"; listen 0.0.0.0:8081 default_server; location / { root /opt/thiss-js/dist; try_files $uri $uri/index.html $uri.html @mdq; } location @mdq { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8083; } } But then, even if we could solve the nginx conf, thiss.io should be "alias" aware and fire the correct query on pyff. Will it? Best regards, Martin

6 years, 2 months

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head of pyFF master broken MDQ via sha1 hash?

by skoranda＠gmail.com

Hi, I am using today's pyFF master head, commit bbdf245ccdb0be8ce45dda8c0cef06a6d33e2755 My pipeline contains - when request: - select: - pipe: - when accept application/xml: - first - finalize: cacheDuration: PT12H validUntil: P10D - sign: key: metadata-signer.key cert: metadata-signer.crt - emit application/xml - break - when accept application/json: - discojson - emit application/json - break This query returns the XML I expect curl 'http://127.0.0.1:8080/entities/https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ligo.org%2Fshibboleth-sp' proving that pyFF has the metadata for the entityID. But this query returns an empty <EntitiesDescriptor>: curl 'http://127.0.0.1:8080/entities/%7Bsha1%7Dff767393c6b06e8282603e9e4541ac1e87…' Note that $ python3 Python 3.7.3 (default, Apr 3 2019, 05:39:12) [GCC 8.3.0] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> from hashlib import sha1 >>> m = sha1() >>> m.update(b'https://wiki.ligo.org/shibboleth-sp') >>> m.hexdigest() 'ff767393c6b06e8282603e9e4541ac1e878d63aa' This is problematic since thiss-js wants to use sha1 hashes to query MDQ. Is there something special I have to configure to get pyFF to accept the sha1 hash? Thanks, Scott K

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Notes: idpy dev call, 17 September 2019

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Attending Ivan, Heather, Roland, Ed, Hannah, Alex, Scott, Christos Notes: 0. Agenda bash 1. Hackathon planning - https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235 <https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235> Currently about 24 people signed up; no sense of distribution. Maybe have some “how to” stations to help people learn how to connect, how the various software stacks work. We do know there will be some people there specifically for thiss.io, some for OIDC federation, some SimpleSAMLphp For Satosa, should have a set up with a ready-made Satosa deployed, then look into how to configure microservices, and develop new microservices. Also do something internal data for Satosa. On the list, one suggestion was to see that the MFA profile passed from the front end to the back end. That might be a good project. Ivan is still planning to work on some machine images this week and other items in prep for the Hackathon. If anyone else has specific ideas of things to share or things they plan to prepare, please let Ivan know. There may be some work on pySAML2 as part of the integration with Satosa (see in particularhttps://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/issues/586 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/issues/586>) For the OIDC Federation, there will be a couple of folks doing some java programming, and hopefully the SimpleSAMLphp will join. Roland will have a server set up to work against. Also has a few people interested in writing mobile clients, though they are not going to be at the hackathon. Roland will also set up a server for them to test against on the web. Giuseppe de Marco is working on an OIDC IdP implementation based on Django, though he will not be at the hackathon. 2. GitHub review a. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2> b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA> https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/252 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/252> - (Scott’s PR) Doing things with LDAP. Are just about at the point that this can be merged. Ivan suggests that we need to normalize the attributes received from LDAP, which means removing the options part from the attributes names and then map them to other attributes. Scott notes that the attribute options need to remain; sometimes the attributes options are enumerated, sometimes they aren’t, and how they are mapped will vary (but they must be mapped). That makes this all fine, then, and the PR can be merged. https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/275 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/275> - (Hannah’s PR) converting logging to something different, to allow outputting of structured information. Ivan will be merging changes as they come in. When we’re done, we will look at exactly what we log, whether they are the right things to capture and if they help us enough in knowing what’s happening within the service. While Ivan was on holiday, discussed how to maintain state between back ends and front ends (use cases, not solutions). Goal is to have access to the configuration of something, like a microservice. Those values could then be used. This might be best dealt with by using handles. We have multiple back ends and front ends, and if we say we want to have access to those, there needs to be specific coupling. We will need to mimic interfaces within the backend (which they don’t otherwise have). Better to communicate data than to have functions be passed around, because the data can be served and be agnostic to the things consuming them. They become the API. Given this data needs to be communicated between requests, right now that means info has to be pushed into the state cookie. Worried about the size of that growing over time, Need alternative ways to keep state. If we use something like the web storage or the index db, then much of what we need to transfer can be eliminated. If we could have context around configuration that could be serialized, we could keep the state of that. Every time it is needed, it could be rebuilt using the serialized state. (This would be a future architecture possibility) https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/275 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/275> https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/273 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA/pull/273> - before merging this, note there are many common things between the way the OIDC services do things, and perhaps we should have a base for the services. c. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF> i. pyFF metadata downloads d. … 3. AOB Neils van Dijk reported a security issue. The issue is with the handling of the redirect_uri. When a request is received, SatoSa validates if the redirect_uri is valid semantically and is allowed as defined in a client database. If that is not the case, SaToSa shows an error page for example "Something went wrong: Redirect uri 'foobar' is not registered" However, in case the parameter contains e.g. javascript like redirect_uri%3Cscript%3Ealert(%22hi%20SaToSa%22)%3B%3C%2Fscript%3E SaToSa does detect correctly this is not a correct URI, but then continues to present the javascript on the error page unmodified, hence executing the javascript. Any other error in the url paramaters passed between rp and op should normally result in a response back to the RP without any user screens involved, however as per https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-core-1_0.html#AuthError <https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-core-1_0.html#AuthError>, an issue with the redirect_uri is the sole exception :( I think SaToSa should always escape the html characters in the error message and perhaps also detect e.g. the presence of a bracket as an illegal character. Another security issue: Scott and Ivan have discussed that the default for the SAML backend will consume the attributes without checking the scope. This might best be part of the core in pySAML2, and keeps with the most conservative defaults as possible.

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Agenda: idpy developers call, 17 September 2019

by hlflanagan＠sphericalcowgroup.com

Date: Tuesday, 17 September 2018 Time: 06:00 PT <x-apple-data-detectors://1> | 09:00 ET <x-apple-data-detectors://2> | 15:00 GMT <x-apple-data-detectors://3> https://bluejeans.com/489221749 <https://bluejeans.com/489221749> Agenda: 0. Agenda bash 1. Hackathon planning - https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235 <https://wiki.refeds.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44959235> 2. GitHub review a. pySAML2 - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2 <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2> b. Satosa - https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA <https://github.com/IdentityPython/SATOSA> c. pyFF - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF <https://github.com/IdentityPython/pyFF> i. pyFF metadata downloads d. … 3. AOB Thanks! Heather

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Questions about pyFF metadata downloads

by Alex.Stuart＠jisc.ac.uk

Hello folks, The UK federation team have discovered that a pyFF deployment is making a large number of metadata aggregate downloads from our Metadata Publication Service. In August, 34.74.200.81 made over 3,000 gzipped downloads of our metadata, downloading 36GB of metadata. As we update metdadata once per day, this deployment is clearly downloading excessively. The IP address 34.74.200.81 is somewhere in Google cloud (81.200.74.34.bc.googleusercontent.com.) and the user agent string is pyFF/1.0.1. Is this anyone's deployment? We also recommend that metadata downloaders make use of the conditional GET. Is it possible to configure pyFF to do conditional GET for metadata downloads? Thanks, Alex — Alex Stuart, Principal technical support specialist (UK federation) alex.stuart at jisc.ac.uk UK federation helpdesk: service at ukfederation.org.uk Jisc is a registered charity (number 1149740) and a company limited by guarantee which is registered in England under Company No. 5747339, VAT No. GB 197 0632 86. Jisc’s registered office is: One Castlepark, Tower Hill, Bristol, BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800. Jisc Services Limited is a wholly owned Jisc subsidiary and a company limited by guarantee which is registered in England under company number 2881024, VAT number GB 197 0632 86. The registered office is: One Castle Park, Tower Hill, Bristol BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800.

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