8:58 a.m.
Dear Octavio,
Many thanks for these thoughts, which all make good sense. I have now added your comments
to the document that I shared below.
Looking forward to seeing where we end up by the end of next week.
Best regards,
Nasrine
From: OCTAVIO RIVERA ROMERO <orivera(a)us.es>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 10:11 AM
To: Nasrine Olson <nasrine.olson(a)hb.se>; diverse(a)lists.sunet.se
Cc: Karen Nowé Hedvall <karen.nowe_hedvall(a)hb.se>
Subject: RE: Notes from yesterday's meeting
Dear all,
Thank you very much for these notes. We could not join the meeting yesterday.
We will review the new proposals and add some ideas if we have any.
We think that going for an industrial doctorate is a good option. In this case, I would
suggest that we reflect on:
* Why the new idea/proposal is relevant for EU, society and companies? (link to UN
SGD)
* Why a new training programe (doctoral programe) on the proposed field is needed?
* Is (or will be) the EU industry (and academic) demanding (or ready for) these kind
of researchers?
Some ideas could be addressed as specific research plan of several DCs.
Sorry for not attending to the meeting.
Best regards,
Octavio
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De: Nasrine Olson <nasrine.olson@hb.se<mailto:nasrine.olson@hb.se>>
Enviado: miércoles, 22 de mayo de 2024 9:50
Para: diverse@lists.sunet.se<mailto:diverse@lists.sunet.se>
<diverse@lists.sunet.se<mailto:diverse@lists.sunet.se>>
Cc: Karen Nowé Hedvall
<karen.nowe_hedvall@hb.se<mailto:karen.nowe_hedvall@hb.se>>
Asunto: [DIVERSE] Notes from yesterday's meeting
Dear all,
Thank you everyone who could make it to our meeting yesterday, it was nice seeing you all.
Here is a recap of what was discussed for those of you who could not make it to the
meeting.
As you know we received positive comments, but the proposal was rejected with a score of
73%. The rejection was not a surprise considering the high number of submissions, but the
low score means that we cannot resubmit the same proposal again this year. So, the main
question for yesterday's meeting was:
* Should we improve the proposal at leisure and re-submit next year or should we
drastically change the proposal and resubmit the new proposal already this year?
The general view in the meeting seemed to be that we should do both. We have formed a very
nice and strong consortium that provides a good foundation for development of a new
application.
Another topic of discussion was that since the standard Doctoral Network (DN) are highly
competitive, perhaps we should opt to go for an Industrial Doctorate (DN-ID) proposal.
The submission statistics were:
- Doctoral Networks (standard DN): 920 proposals (86.3% of total)
- Industrial Doctorates (DN-ID): 64 proposals (6.0% of total)
- Joint Doctorates (DN-JD): 82 proposals (7.7% of total)
Based on this line of thinking, a few further questions arose.
1. What should the topic or core idea of the new application be?
A few ideas came up already as listed in this
document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PtRBCAcv_UBWnwuAJKL5-kXgMFC….
It was decided that we all take until the end of next week and think through potential
directions and add some notes about our ideas in the shared
document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PtRBCAcv_UBWnwuAJKL5-kXgMFC….
It would be great if we could find topics that interest us all, but this is not a must.
Furthermore, there may be a topic for which we do not have the right expertise in the
current consortium. This is also fine as we could approach others with the right
profiles.
1. As we at HB have the management's approval to continue with further development
of the DIVERSE proposal, we will be happy to continue with its coordination and
resubmission next year. Who would like to take on the coordination of the new proposal to
be submitted this year? (we will all of course contribute to the writing) Please indicated
your interest in the same document as mentioned above.
1. Depending on the proposed topics and if we go for a DN-ID proposal, who would be the
industrial partners?
If you wish to create mind maps on
Miro<https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVMUppi4c=/?utm_source=notification&am…,
we can use the same page as before, feel free to create new separate spaces on same page.
I have also archived our earlier documents on Google
Drive<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1q31r8wjwmhsVOp4aMz6B4xf4-D… and
have created a new subfolder for our new
proposal<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14O1aXCUfzIKjKxqgVqvhYB4….
I have placed the call in the same folder. Please feel free to use these as you deem fit.
Please add your thoughts to the document above by the end of next week (end of May) to
help us decide what the next steps should be.
Best regards,
Nasrine
-----Original Appointment-----
From: Nasrine Olson
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:15 PM
To: diverse@lists.sunet.se<mailto:diverse@lists.sunet.se>
Subject: Follow up on DIVERSE MSCA application
When: 21 May 2024 10:00-11:00 (UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm,
Vienna.
Where: Online: https://hb-se.zoom.us/j/4384884661
Dear all,
Thank you everyone for responding to my doodle. Based on your feedback, Tuesday 21st May
at 10:00 CEST seems to be the best option, so please book that slot in your diaries.
Some of you, representing supporting organisations, have contacted me wondering if your
presence is also required. You do not have to be there but you are most welcome to join if
you so wish. This might be a good opportunity to meet the others in the group and
contribute to the conversation and decisions, but purely up to you. We will of course
continue to keep you informed.
Looking forward to seeing you again in May and best regards,
Nasrine